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(Mostly ramblings, not much structure in this page, need to work on this) | |||
== Youth and the origins of friendships == | |||
Man, this is one that will throw you for a loop. Let me preface this quickly. In the last two years I have lost about three of my closest friends, one of with was my very best friend. Until this occurred, I put friends before anything or anyone else. After this, all changed and I will try and not be biased in my thoughts on this matter because of what has happen in the last few. | |||
Growing up, friends were all I had. My Brothers and Sisters were all out doing other things (I am the youngest) so at an early age, I relayed that friends were where I was going to focus on moving forward. I could not get enough of them. There were things to do with every one of them, some in groups, some one on one. At an early age, friends are the best. | |||
As you get a bit older things start to change. Friendships are easy until about 5th grade, when popularity starts to rear it's ugly head. Kids start to make decisions based not on the initial friendships but based on other factors like who hangs with who, who is good at what, who has rich families, so on. The girls or boys get envolved and this can play a serious roll in the hard fact that humans are unreliable and unpredictable. For me, this was the first time I learned that friends can change. | |||
== How it all starts to fall apart == | |||
Money, The Public Eye and Relationships shed amazing light on the underlying person that a friend might be. There are many other telltales but these are have been the biggie in my eyes. Do you know someone who is amazing as a friend behind closed doors but the opposite in public? Have a friend that has made or come into a large about of money or something of worth? Have you ever had a friend change everything to their core after getting into a relationship? If so then you are seeing clear indicators about what this person is and will be like for the rest of their life. The bottom line is that people don't change. They are born a certain way and in their youth, they are able to mask their underlying core values and beliefs but as they grow old, so does their ability to be hide these thought and feelings. | |||
== Patterns == | |||
They say that people don't change, they just become the person they have always been. I think this is such a true point it is shocking. So shocking that I wish I had known it all my life. People don't change, they get older, try get to thinking, they get to thinking about themselves, and all their previous openness and flexibility goes right out the third floor fucking window. | |||
When your young, you have a gang of friends. As you get older that gang get to me a small crowd. Usually in clicks of people that are alike. Gay, Single, Married, Married with kids. These clicks have walls that cannot be jumped. Friendships go out the window, people decide this is what they want and fuck everyone else. | |||
I have tried all my life to be a part of my friends lives that are in any of these groups but it becomes almost impossible. If your lucky, you will be in a relationship with your best friend and invite others to be a part of it. If your unlucky, you will be in a relationship with someone so selfish that they control you and who your friends with. I have found that people that end up in the latter put themselves there by choice so don't feel bad for them, tell them that they have made a decision that you cannot support, and that they are selfish. Walk away and don't look back. You will not change them. The only thing that can happen here to get your friendship back is to wait and watch it all explode from a safe distance because it will. | |||
== Simple Classifications of type of Friends == | |||
There are a few things to know about classifications of friends: A friend will almost always be one way with you and be totally opposite to others. This is all about your one of relationship, people can be any of these classifications to you but different to others. One acceptation is that a user is almost always a user to everyone. Keep this in Mind. | |||
**No Gain, No Needs: These are the friends you had when you were or are preteen. These are true friends that you do things with on both peoples accounts. There is no drama about doing this for that or mine for yours. This is the, "lets goto a movie." type of friend. This is the Let me help out when you need it and you can help me when you need it. I believe that these types friends basically disappear between the ages of 24 and 55 and are temporarily replaced with a spousal relationship of some kind. If your able to keep these all your life then you have done a very good job at it AND have been very lucky. | |||
**Users: We all have them and if your are one you need to know it. These have close ties to fair wether friends but they stand apart in a lot of ways. These are the friends that need things from you. Whether it is fixing something for them, giving them a ride, buying them drinks, loaning them money, it is always something other then, "Hello, how are you?" | |||
The bottom line is that these people are crap and live in a way that is unacceptable to you. If you find that your friends only call you when they need something then something wrong is happening. Usually it is because you are a giver. All you know how to do is give. This is OK if you have a taker friend but if a friend is a user to you and everyone else you know them to be friends with then you have a case of "Crap ass Friend" syndrome. You do what you want but I would suggest not answering the phone and avoiding these people at all costs. Your not helping them by enabling them, your hurting them. Let them fall to the bottom and pick themselves up. That is the only way a User will ever change. Goldiggers, Drug addicts and emotionally handicapped people are typical types of Users. Users only have one good trait: they will always tell you what they want from you. | |||
If your one, get your fucking head out of your ass, if you know a few, tell them to beat feet. | |||
**Givers: Let me begin by admitting that I am a Giver, to a flaw. Givers sound like good people and they usually are but they have their flaws just like anyone else. To start, it is never an equal friendship. Givers will never let you do anything for them. Givers will never ask you for your help. To be a friend with a giver, you basically have to do what you want for the person without permission. They will hate you for it but deep down love you for it. The hard part of a giver is that you basically need to have the intuition to know how you can help, they will never tell you what is needed, or wanted. Givers can be fucking annoying. If all they want to do is take care of you then they get on your nerves. If there is never anything you can do for them then you get pissed. When you don't do shit for them because you think they don't want anything, they get pissed. | |||
My suggestion with these types is to pay attention. Recognize this personality and be smart about it. If someone is a giver that is in your life, do things for them without their permission or input. Clearly they are giving to you so give back, don't wait to be asked for something. If you never do this then there isa good chance your a User or a Taker. Givers commonly get taken advantage of. This is their fault. Keep this in mind, you might want to police what you ask of them. | |||
**Takers: Takers are the types of people that will not ask for your help but will always take it when offered and usually with little to no return. Takers think everyone else are idiots because they are to nice and give to much to others. Takers are people that will never get jobs, never pay their own bills, never even try. They find it easier to just skate by having everyone else do the dirty work when they offer it. | |||
I have seen this a lot with Attractive Men and Women. They put themselves out there until they get what they want and then you don't hear from them until next time they need something. If you find this is happening with you and someone, then your being played. Wake up. Take a step back and realize your being taken advantage of. | |||
**Socially motivated: These are some of the worst people in the world. Almost always they are followers, not leader, and are only interested in the click or group you allow them to be a part of. Maybe you have a cool car, nice house, pool, TV whatever. These types want to been seen or perceived in a way. Knowing you can get this for them. These people are Users in their own right. | |||
If you find you have a friendship of this type then your as much a dick as the person using you for your shit. Don't let this happen with anyone and don't be the cool guy with all the toys. All you will do is attract these types of people and it will be your own fault. | |||
**Fair Weather: These people are Users and Socially motivated. These are the ones who are friends with you when your cool or popular but drop you when your not. These are the people that might have lived a certain life style and want to live in your spot light while you have it. When that light goes dim, they will not be around. | |||
This is a hard one to spot because usually your in such a good spot when they are around that your not noticing them riding on your name. Usually you notice these types when your in the bucket and they are not there to help you out. You will get out of that gutter at somepoint. When you do and they come back-a-knocking, you tell them to go fuck themselves. Your better off without the dead weight moving forward. You have learned your lesson. If you let this happen again then your a fucking idiot and should not be on my site. | |||
== The Bottom line == | |||
People don't change unless they decide in their core that they want and need to. Usually this happens when their world has crumbled and they realize that the person they were was not the person they want to be. Granted, this is rare but this can happen. I learned at a young age that people don't change. My brother really liked Drugs. No matter what my sisters or parents did, we could convince him that drugs were so bad for him and for us. TO this day my brother is the same way and to this day it pains all of us. Were we to have let him hit the floor, maybe he would have woken up one day and realized that he needed to change. We didn't, and he hasn't. Remember this when you have a friend that needs to change. Only they can do it. Nothing you do or cay can convince them. If your trying to change someone then your a dick that is wasting time. Move on, find the right friends that need no input from you on they way they should be. |
Revision as of 00:33, 15 January 2011
01/14/211
Friendships:
(Mostly ramblings, not much structure in this page, need to work on this)
Youth and the origins of friendships
Man, this is one that will throw you for a loop. Let me preface this quickly. In the last two years I have lost about three of my closest friends, one of with was my very best friend. Until this occurred, I put friends before anything or anyone else. After this, all changed and I will try and not be biased in my thoughts on this matter because of what has happen in the last few.
Growing up, friends were all I had. My Brothers and Sisters were all out doing other things (I am the youngest) so at an early age, I relayed that friends were where I was going to focus on moving forward. I could not get enough of them. There were things to do with every one of them, some in groups, some one on one. At an early age, friends are the best.
As you get a bit older things start to change. Friendships are easy until about 5th grade, when popularity starts to rear it's ugly head. Kids start to make decisions based not on the initial friendships but based on other factors like who hangs with who, who is good at what, who has rich families, so on. The girls or boys get envolved and this can play a serious roll in the hard fact that humans are unreliable and unpredictable. For me, this was the first time I learned that friends can change.
How it all starts to fall apart
Money, The Public Eye and Relationships shed amazing light on the underlying person that a friend might be. There are many other telltales but these are have been the biggie in my eyes. Do you know someone who is amazing as a friend behind closed doors but the opposite in public? Have a friend that has made or come into a large about of money or something of worth? Have you ever had a friend change everything to their core after getting into a relationship? If so then you are seeing clear indicators about what this person is and will be like for the rest of their life. The bottom line is that people don't change. They are born a certain way and in their youth, they are able to mask their underlying core values and beliefs but as they grow old, so does their ability to be hide these thought and feelings.
Patterns
They say that people don't change, they just become the person they have always been. I think this is such a true point it is shocking. So shocking that I wish I had known it all my life. People don't change, they get older, try get to thinking, they get to thinking about themselves, and all their previous openness and flexibility goes right out the third floor fucking window.
When your young, you have a gang of friends. As you get older that gang get to me a small crowd. Usually in clicks of people that are alike. Gay, Single, Married, Married with kids. These clicks have walls that cannot be jumped. Friendships go out the window, people decide this is what they want and fuck everyone else.
I have tried all my life to be a part of my friends lives that are in any of these groups but it becomes almost impossible. If your lucky, you will be in a relationship with your best friend and invite others to be a part of it. If your unlucky, you will be in a relationship with someone so selfish that they control you and who your friends with. I have found that people that end up in the latter put themselves there by choice so don't feel bad for them, tell them that they have made a decision that you cannot support, and that they are selfish. Walk away and don't look back. You will not change them. The only thing that can happen here to get your friendship back is to wait and watch it all explode from a safe distance because it will.
Simple Classifications of type of Friends
There are a few things to know about classifications of friends: A friend will almost always be one way with you and be totally opposite to others. This is all about your one of relationship, people can be any of these classifications to you but different to others. One acceptation is that a user is almost always a user to everyone. Keep this in Mind.
- No Gain, No Needs: These are the friends you had when you were or are preteen. These are true friends that you do things with on both peoples accounts. There is no drama about doing this for that or mine for yours. This is the, "lets goto a movie." type of friend. This is the Let me help out when you need it and you can help me when you need it. I believe that these types friends basically disappear between the ages of 24 and 55 and are temporarily replaced with a spousal relationship of some kind. If your able to keep these all your life then you have done a very good job at it AND have been very lucky.
- Users: We all have them and if your are one you need to know it. These have close ties to fair wether friends but they stand apart in a lot of ways. These are the friends that need things from you. Whether it is fixing something for them, giving them a ride, buying them drinks, loaning them money, it is always something other then, "Hello, how are you?"
The bottom line is that these people are crap and live in a way that is unacceptable to you. If you find that your friends only call you when they need something then something wrong is happening. Usually it is because you are a giver. All you know how to do is give. This is OK if you have a taker friend but if a friend is a user to you and everyone else you know them to be friends with then you have a case of "Crap ass Friend" syndrome. You do what you want but I would suggest not answering the phone and avoiding these people at all costs. Your not helping them by enabling them, your hurting them. Let them fall to the bottom and pick themselves up. That is the only way a User will ever change. Goldiggers, Drug addicts and emotionally handicapped people are typical types of Users. Users only have one good trait: they will always tell you what they want from you.
If your one, get your fucking head out of your ass, if you know a few, tell them to beat feet.
- Givers: Let me begin by admitting that I am a Giver, to a flaw. Givers sound like good people and they usually are but they have their flaws just like anyone else. To start, it is never an equal friendship. Givers will never let you do anything for them. Givers will never ask you for your help. To be a friend with a giver, you basically have to do what you want for the person without permission. They will hate you for it but deep down love you for it. The hard part of a giver is that you basically need to have the intuition to know how you can help, they will never tell you what is needed, or wanted. Givers can be fucking annoying. If all they want to do is take care of you then they get on your nerves. If there is never anything you can do for them then you get pissed. When you don't do shit for them because you think they don't want anything, they get pissed.
My suggestion with these types is to pay attention. Recognize this personality and be smart about it. If someone is a giver that is in your life, do things for them without their permission or input. Clearly they are giving to you so give back, don't wait to be asked for something. If you never do this then there isa good chance your a User or a Taker. Givers commonly get taken advantage of. This is their fault. Keep this in mind, you might want to police what you ask of them.
- Takers: Takers are the types of people that will not ask for your help but will always take it when offered and usually with little to no return. Takers think everyone else are idiots because they are to nice and give to much to others. Takers are people that will never get jobs, never pay their own bills, never even try. They find it easier to just skate by having everyone else do the dirty work when they offer it.
I have seen this a lot with Attractive Men and Women. They put themselves out there until they get what they want and then you don't hear from them until next time they need something. If you find this is happening with you and someone, then your being played. Wake up. Take a step back and realize your being taken advantage of.
- Socially motivated: These are some of the worst people in the world. Almost always they are followers, not leader, and are only interested in the click or group you allow them to be a part of. Maybe you have a cool car, nice house, pool, TV whatever. These types want to been seen or perceived in a way. Knowing you can get this for them. These people are Users in their own right.
If you find you have a friendship of this type then your as much a dick as the person using you for your shit. Don't let this happen with anyone and don't be the cool guy with all the toys. All you will do is attract these types of people and it will be your own fault.
- Fair Weather: These people are Users and Socially motivated. These are the ones who are friends with you when your cool or popular but drop you when your not. These are the people that might have lived a certain life style and want to live in your spot light while you have it. When that light goes dim, they will not be around.
This is a hard one to spot because usually your in such a good spot when they are around that your not noticing them riding on your name. Usually you notice these types when your in the bucket and they are not there to help you out. You will get out of that gutter at somepoint. When you do and they come back-a-knocking, you tell them to go fuck themselves. Your better off without the dead weight moving forward. You have learned your lesson. If you let this happen again then your a fucking idiot and should not be on my site.
The Bottom line
People don't change unless they decide in their core that they want and need to. Usually this happens when their world has crumbled and they realize that the person they were was not the person they want to be. Granted, this is rare but this can happen. I learned at a young age that people don't change. My brother really liked Drugs. No matter what my sisters or parents did, we could convince him that drugs were so bad for him and for us. TO this day my brother is the same way and to this day it pains all of us. Were we to have let him hit the floor, maybe he would have woken up one day and realized that he needed to change. We didn't, and he hasn't. Remember this when you have a friend that needs to change. Only they can do it. Nothing you do or cay can convince them. If your trying to change someone then your a dick that is wasting time. Move on, find the right friends that need no input from you on they way they should be.